E-manage nightmare!

[4g63lover]

Got the car back from the exhaust shop and finally got to start tweaking the E-manage.

FUCK THAT BS!

I first started to tweak the idle. The car is running good but it has a slight stumble at idle. The AFR's bounce around 16.5~17.5 and once in a while it'll max out the wideband. Also, when you push the clutch in, the car dips all the way to almost below 500 RPM and blips back up to 900 and the wideband reads ---. Sometimes it dips so far down that the car actually stalls and dies. When you let off the throttle without pushing the clutch in, it goes all the way to 10.1:1 AFR.

I first started to adjust by 1% increments, seeing no change, I went and tried to drive it rich. So I went up to 25 on the airflow adjustment map on a few cells and saw the AFR go SLIGHTLY rich but then go LEAN again. We tried different amounts we were adjusting by 10% increments at one point and go all the way to 50% saw no change whatsoever in the AFR's. Still jumped around way too much.

So we decided to try and tune partial throttle. The AFR's jumped around so much that there was no way I was going to be able to watch it and adjust accordingly. even with the map trace it was difficult.

We called it a night after that. I called SPD_FRK and discussed my options with his conversion harnesses and an EVO ECU. I just downloaded ECUFlash to my laptop and going to try and get a tactrix 2.0. I am throwing in the towel for the E-manage before I blow the car up.

I got her parked in the garage for now. I'd hate to leave her in there but I refuse to drive her everyday knowing the tune is fucked (Well, technically theres no tune).

I think whats happening is that as the E-manage is making adjustments, the stock ECU is trying to re-configure and compensate. They're constantly fighting each other which is making the car do stupid things. This explains why the adjustment on the maps are only there for a few seconds before they go back to the same value as before.

All I know is I got a huge headache and I am FED UP with this E-manage shit. I guess the only answer is to cough up the dough for the EVO ECU set-up and get the car on a proper tuning solution.

If theres any info that anyone wants to share about the E-manage it would be greatly appreciated.

[RaCh3T8G]

Try what MKO suggested on TGC & see if that helps & if not, see if you can get your hands on a 3G GS ECU since its a lot cheaper than the Evo8 ECU.

[SPD_FRK]

Try what MKO suggested on TGC & see if that helps & if not, see if you can get your hands on a 3G GS ECU since its a lot cheaper than the Evo8 ECU.

Trust me when I say this. E-Manage is a serious pain in the ass tuning management unit. Very difficult to get adjusted and tuned, not only that but it is not as user friendly as EcuFlash. Marc and I both spent about a week total trying to tune his Galant with the exact same E-Manage Jigz is using. Not to mention this was after a local "Tuner Shop" out here tuned his car for him. It was hardly a safe tune and ignition could be heard pinging and you can feel the engine fighting itself to make any power above 3K RPM. We dealt with it all on E-Manage and saw very little change, while at the same time becoming very frsutrated, so much so that Marc ultimately parked the Galant and it has not been touched since then (over a year ago now).


I have spoken with Jigz on this issue and have given him a hell of a deal on the package, including a "base tune" flashed to the ECM so that when he gets the items he can plug everything in and start running through his tuning much quicker, easier, and with greater control of everything.

We will never push E-Manage on our customers because we have dealt with it personally, and with the advancement of the EcuFlash currently there is no point in using a piggyback unit instead of complete engine control via the OEM ECM.

[SilverG01]

Guys forgive me if its a noob question, but why not use the stock ECU, with all the progress Isaurio and Acamus have accomplished thats an option now, or is it still too early to use that?

[Isaurio]

^^^
Yes we could tune our stock pcm for true turbo tuning. Also getting a boost solenoid on the stock pcm so we could control the boost.
Is too early, is on beta testing. The v6 big map on the Galant was a success on Dion PCM. It took the rom no problem. 2 Step was activated working 100%. Still needs some testing on the rom for bugs and loads. Is a working progress. We are on stand still because there is a issue with the trani going to gear and we can't log and move the G.

The 2.4L big Rom, there is a few bugs that needs to be address and is not tested yet. Is not pointing to the right address. Making the PCM not functional. Acamus and I are working on it. is not a 256Kb on this rom we are working with the full 512KB of the rom so is some work.